On Friday, October 12, 2012 10:23:57 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 12 Oct 2012, at 14:50, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > They are certainly cool looking and biomorphic. The question I have > > is, at what point do they begin to have experiences...or do you > > think that those blobs have experiences already? > > > > Would it give them more of a human experience if an oscillating > > smiley-face/frowny-face algorithm were added graphically into the > > center of each blob? > > > Here is a "deterministic" simple phenomenon looking amazingly > "alive" (non-newtonian fluid): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zoTKXXNQIU > > Is it alive? That question does not make sense for me. Yes with some > definition, no with other one. Unlike consciousness or intelligence > "life" is not a definite concept for me. I use usually the definition > "has a reproductive cycle". But this makes cigarettes and stars alive. > No problem for me. > > Bruno >
"The good news is, after this operation you'll be every bit as alive as a cigarette is". There are some cool videos out there of cymatic animation like that. All that it really tells me is that there are a limited number of morphological themes in the universe, not that those themes are positively linked to any particular private phenomenology. They are producing those patterns with a particular acoustic signal, but we could model it mathematically and see the same pattern on a video screen without any acoustic signal at all. Same thing happens when we model the behaviors of a conscious mind. It looks similar from a distance, but that's all. Craig > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/8-pjDX84CC4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
