On Friday, October 12, 2012 10:23:57 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2012, at 14:50, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > They are certainly cool looking and biomorphic. The question I have   
> > is, at what point do they begin to have experiences...or do you   
> > think that those blobs have experiences already? 
> > 
> > Would it give them more of a human experience if an oscillating   
> > smiley-face/frowny-face algorithm were added graphically into the   
> > center of each blob? 
> Here is a  "deterministic" simple phenomenon looking amazingly   
> "alive" (non-newtonian fluid): 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zoTKXXNQIU 
> Is it alive? That question does not make sense for me. Yes with some   
> definition, no with other one. Unlike consciousness or intelligence   
> "life" is not a definite concept for me. I use usually the definition   
> "has a reproductive cycle". But this makes cigarettes and stars alive.   
> No problem for me. 
> Bruno 

"The good news is, after this operation you'll be every bit as alive as a 
cigarette is".

There are some cool videos out there of cymatic animation like that. All 
that it really tells me is that there are a limited number of morphological 
themes in the universe, not that those themes are positively linked to any 
particular private phenomenology. They are producing those patterns with a 
particular acoustic signal, but we could model it mathematically and see 
the same pattern on a video screen without any acoustic signal at all. Same 
thing happens when we model the behaviors of a conscious mind. It looks 
similar from a distance, but that's all.



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