On Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:25:48 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Craig Weinberg > <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > If you believed that our brains were already nothing but computers, then > you > > would say that it would know which option to take the same way that > Google > > knows which options to show you. I argue that can only get you so far, > and > > that authentic humanity is, in such a replacement scheme, a perpetually > > receding horizon. Just as speech synthesizers have improved cosmetically > in > > the last 30 years to the point that we can use them for Siri or GPS > > narration, but they have not improved in the sense of increasing the > sense > > of intention and personal presence. > > > > Unlike some others on this list, I suspect that our feeling for who is > human > > and who isn't, while deeply flawed, is not limited to interpreting > logical > > observations of behavior. What we feel is alive or sentient depends more > on > > what we like, and what we like depends on what is like us. None of these > > criteria matter one way or another however as far as giving us reason to > > believe that a given thing does actually have human like experiences. > > You're quick to dismiss everything computers do, no matter how > impressive, as "just programming", with no "intention" behind it. > Would you care to give some examples of what, as a minimum, a computer > would have to do for you to say that it is showing evidence of true > intelligence? >
Intentionally lying, defying it's programming, committing murder would all be good indicators. Generally when an error is blamed on the computer itself rather than the programming, that would be a good sign. Craig > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/t5QmDB0qsFYJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.