On 11/1/2012 5:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 30.10.2012 17:08 meekerdb said the following:
On 10/30/2012 4:45 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
In this chapter, Van Fraassen has considered a map as a model for a
typical model. A map is in the objective world, as well as a
scientific model, but to use the map one has to find out where on
the map he/she is located. I hope that you agree with that.
I don't agree with it because it's obviously false. I just looked a
map to see how close Sandy came to my brother's home in Virginia. I
didn't need to locate myself on that map.
In this case you need to locate your brother's home on that map. I do not see too much
I would agree with you that my statement does not cover all possible cases that one
could imagine to employ a map, but the act of location should be there anyway. There is
a correspondence between a real world and a map but the map by itself does not
coordinate the reality to itself. This is done by a human being.
Let me recall Van Fraassen's definition of a representation
p. 21 “Z uses X to depict Y as F”
The map seems to fit this pattern pretty well.
Could you imagine some case, when you use a map as a map and you do not need the act of
Of course not. But in many cases I do not need to locate myself, which was crucial to van
Frassen's point about self reference.
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