Right. And even less than complete models can run afoul of Godel, e.g. if I created a
model of myself. It might be an accurate model, but I couldn't know that it was. On the
other hand, John Mikes could know that it was.
On 10/29/2012 12:53 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent, I think if a 'model' is *complete*, it is not a model, it is the real
Consequently it (as the real thing) is not provable from within - Godel, or not. (dON'T
ASK ME ABOUT "real", please <G>)
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/29/2012 10:21 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Some more quotes from From Scientific Representation: Paradoxes of
by Bas C Van Fraassen.
If the model is complete it must already include us - as well as what we
about it and do with it. But then this will run into Godelian
it is true it will be unprovable within the model.
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