Hi Richard Ruquist 

Engineering advantages ? A decade before the Wright brothers
flew their airplane, people would have said, "You're going to do WHAT ?"  

Many if not all innovations like that seem at present to be crazy
or impossible. 


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/5/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


----- Receiving the following content -----  
From: Richard Ruquist  
Receiver: everything-list  
Time: 2012-11-04, 09:42:29 
Subject: Re: Weyl on mathematics vs. reality 


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi  wrote: 
> On 04.11.2012 08:37 Richard Ruquist said the following: 
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi  
>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> On 04.11.2012 02:58 meekerdb said the following: 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/3/2012 2:01 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ... 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> p. 210 "We seem to be left with four equally unpalatable 
>>>>> alternatives: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> o that either the point about isomorphism and mathematics is 
>>>>> mistaken, or 
>>>>> 
>>>>> o that scientific representation is not at bottom 
>>>>> mathematical representation alone, or 
>>>>> 
>>>>> o that science is necessarily incomplete in a way we can know 
>>>>> it to be incomplete, or 
>>>>> 
>>>>> o that those apparent differences to us, cutting across 
>>>>> isomorphism, are illusory. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In his comment about immediate alive intuition, Weyl appears to 
>>>>> opt for the second, or perhaps the third, alternative. But on 
>>>>> the either of this, we face a perplexing epistemological 
>>>>> question: Is there something that I could know to be the case, 
>>>>> and which is not expressed by a proposition that could be part 
>>>>> of some scientific theory?" 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It seems to me he left out the most likely case: that our science 
>>>> is incomplete in a way we know. 
>>>> 
>>>> Brent 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Could you please express this knowledge explicitly? 
>> 
>> 
>> String theory is an example of knowledge of incomplete science as 
>> for the most part string theory has not been verified/falsified 
>> experimentally. Richard 
> 
> 
> Let us imagine that the superstring theory is completed and even 
> experimentally verified. So what's then? How the superstring theory would 
> change engineering practice? 

I am unable to predict any engineering advantage to any proposed high 
energy theory even if it were to explain dark energy. That includes 
comp. What I can predict is that such a valid theory may change our 
conception of reality. In particular it may determine if a god is 
possible and exists and/or if a Many World multiverse exists. My 
personal prediction is that it is one or the other, either MWI or a 
god and a supernatural realm. Richard 

> 
> Evgenii 
> -- 
> p. 278 "... the regularities must derive from not just natural but logical 
> necessity. This sentiment is sometimes encountered still, not so much among 
> philosophers but in physicists' dreams of a final theory so logically 
> airtight as to admit of no conceivable alternative, one that would be 
> grasped as true when understood at all." 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Everything List" group. 
> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 
> For more options, visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. 
> 

--  
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group. 
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. 
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

Reply via email to