On 11/7/2012 9:31 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King

Your criticism might be valid, but I never made the claim that Berkeley
is said to have made. Leibniz, possibly more like you,
would never have made such a claim. Leibniz believed that God
is purposeful (caused things to happen at least partially due
to end causes).

Dear Roger,

My belief in God is anticipatory, in the sense that in the eternal struggle of Becoming <http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/process-philosophy/>, as I hold to be true that the beliefs of observers will almost always converge on mutually agreed upon facts and thus those observers will have physical worlds with lawful or /nomic/ <http://www.earlham.edu/%7Epeters/writing/nomic.htm> relations without assuming that avoid Plato's view that a universal can exist without being instantiated, as we see here: http://www.springerlink.com/content/052422q295335527/. These convergences are never a priori knowledge, they cannot be computed "ahead of time".

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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On 11/6/2012 11:01 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King

Even Berkeley had to admit that no forest, no whatever..
was foolishness and so said that in that case, God
observed it. Get real.
Hi Roger,

      Then you are explicitly admitting that God's only purpose is to be
an Absolute observer in whose eye all truth is definite. The problem is
that such ideas cannot explain how that definiteness is consistent with
the experimental results that confirm the violation of Bell's theorem
and other theorems (Gleason, Kochen-Specker). All I am claiming is that
the totality of all observers act as the absolute observer, not some
hypothetical entity that if examined carefully falls apart as
self-contradictory. What is so blasphemous about claiming that We are God?



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