Hi Stephen P. King  

OK, let me rephrase the question. If a tree 
falls in the forest with nobody to observe it, will 
it end up on the ground ? 


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/6/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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On 11/5/2012 2:30 PM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi Stephen P. King 
> 
> A tape recorder could prove your theory wrong. 

     A tape recorder is an example of an observer of sounds, so no, my  
theory stands. 

> 
> Berkeley finally gave in and said that realism 
> was acceptable because God could see or hear it. 
> 
> 
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
> 11/5/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 
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> 
> On 11/5/2012 10:35 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
>> Hi Stephen P. King 
>> 
>> Infallibility isn't involved. The typical textbook 
>> explanation for realism is, "if a tree falls in a 
>> forest and nobody is there to hear it, would it 
>> make a sound?" 
>> 
>> A realist (such as me) would say "yes." 
> The logician in me would say "no!" Because a sound is something 
> that must be capable of being heard to exist. If no one is truly around, 
> then the noise that the tree might make cannot be heard and thus there 
> is not a sound. 
> 
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