Hi Stephen P. King Even Berkeley had to admit that no forest, no whatever.. was foolishness and so said that in that case, God observed it. Get real.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 11/6/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-06, 10:35:37 Subject: Re: Communicability On 11/6/2012 4:56 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Stephen P. King > > OK, let me rephrase the question. If a tree > falls in the forest with nobody to observe it, will > it end up on the ground ? Hi Roger, There is no tree nor forest nor ground nor any action in that condition. > > Roger Clough, [email protected] > 11/6/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Stephen P. King > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-11-05, 22:00:20 > Subject: Re: Communicability > > > On 11/5/2012 2:30 PM, Roger Clough wrote: >> Hi Stephen P. King >> >> A tape recorder could prove your theory wrong. > A tape recorder is an example of an observer of sounds, so no, my > theory stands. > >> Berkeley finally gave in and said that realism >> was acceptable because God could see or hear it. >> >> >> Roger Clough, [email protected] >> 11/5/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Stephen P. King >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-11-05, 11:10:06 >> Subject: Re: Communicability >> >> >> On 11/5/2012 10:35 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >>> Hi Stephen P. King >>> >>> Infallibility isn't involved. The typical textbook >>> explanation for realism is, "if a tree falls in a >>> forest and nobody is there to hear it, would it >>> make a sound?" >>> >>> A realist (such as me) would say "yes." >> The logician in me would say "no!" Because a sound is something >> that must be capable of being heard to exist. If no one is truly around, >> then the noise that the tree might make cannot be heard and thus there >> is not a sound. >> >> -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
