Hi Stephen P. King  

Libertarians aren't weird.
They're essentially conservatives without a military.


Roger Clough, [email protected] 
11/8/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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On 11/7/2012 12:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi Stephen P. King 
> 
> Sounds reasonable. 
> 
> Being a conservative, however, I tend to adopt orthodox views 
> such as that of Leibniz (to my mind at least) and the Bible. 

Hi Roger, 

     I am weird. I tend libertarian, but not archarchist. I see  
orthodoxy as OK but only within limited domains. 

> 
> 
> Roger Clough, [email protected] 
> 11/7/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> On 11/7/2012 9:31 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> 
> Hi Stephen P. King 
> 
> Your criticism might be valid, but I never made the claim that Berkeley 
> is said to have made. Leibniz, possibly more like you, 
> would never have made such a claim. Leibniz believed that God 
> is purposeful (caused things to happen at least partially due 
> to end causes). 
> 
> 
> Dear Roger, 
> 
> My belief in God is anticipatory, in the sense that in the eternal struggle 
> of Becoming, as I hold to be true that the beliefs of observers will almost 
> always converge on mutually agreed upon facts and thus those observers will 
> have physical worlds with lawful or nomic relations without assuming that 
> avoid Plato? view that a universal can exist without being instantiated, as 
> we see here: http://www.springerlink.com/content/052422q295335527/. These 
> convergences are never a priori knowledge, they cannot be computed "ahead of 
> time". 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Roger Clough, [email protected] 
> 11/7/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Communicability 
> 
> 
> On 11/6/2012 11:01 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> 
> Hi Stephen P. King 
> 
> Even Berkeley had to admit that no forest, no whatever.. 
> was foolishness and so said that in that case, God 
> observed it. Get real. 
> 
> Hi Roger, 
> 
> Then you are explicitly admitting that God's only purpose is to be 
> an Absolute observer in whose eye all truth is definite. The problem is 
> that such ideas cannot explain how that definiteness is consistent with 
> the experimental results that confirm the violation of Bell's theorem 
> and other theorems (Gleason, Kochen-Specker). All I am claiming is that 
> the totality of all observers act as the absolute observer, not some 
> hypothetical entity that if examined carefully falls apart as 
> self-contradictory. What is so blasphemous about claiming that We are God? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Onward! 
> 
> Stephen 
> 


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