Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy 

Every new generation attacks what the previous generation holds dear.
Freud explained that in his theory of the Oedipal complex. 


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/11/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
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Time: 2012-12-10, 09:43:52
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Avoiding the use of the word God


Hi Roger,


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:



Leibniz expressed what was logically necessary, not 
an opinion of God.

And this itself was an opinion of god and produced a striking revelation in 
Leibniz: "Contradiction. I have kicked my own monadology in its supreme gonad."

This produced a depression and he went shopping for a new wig, asking himself: 
: "How will people in a few hundred years remember my go... uhm... monads?" 

This depression did not subside until Craig showed up as a Doctor from the 
future in a time machine called "weak comp, yes I get it, but will never admit 
sense cannot be primitive because it is always relative, unlike the number I II 
III and so on". But because Craig is a nice guy and could "sense", in perfect 
Jedi-scientific manner, a disturbance in the Leibnizean 
senso-motoricyclical-gonadial force. He took the time machine he hates to use 
and dressed as a doctor from the future.? 

He then met Leibniz, wearing a wig made from a soulless Lion (just chemical 
copy for appearance sake, above the soul substitution level for lions), which 
impressed and intimidated Leibniz and his budget Target goat hair wig so much, 
that he had an epiphany and stepped into a comp compliant time teleportation 
system, trusted the doctor Craig about the substitution level, and flew to the 
future to extort the CEO of the Bahlsen cookie company in Hanover: "If you 
don't make chocolate cooki...uh...monads with precisely 52 rounded edges, and 
name them after me, then my intimidating goat wig with all its logical 
implications will bore you to death, kicking you in the metaphysical monads of 
the gonads, hmmkay?"

Needless to say, with history in view, the CEO complied.

Thus today, any person and child in Germany with two Euros can walk into most 
stores and buy himself 12 monads with 52 rounded gonad edges each. 

They continuously enable a more joyous Christmas time sharing of precious 
moments with the hated loved ones of many Germans. The monads appease the 
family feuds with 52 gonads each, topped with some chocolate.

If you doubt the scientific validity of this story, then just behold my proof:

https://www.google.com/search?q=leibniz+cookies&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=IVQ&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_fPFUOvxF4mShge_nYHYDg&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1034
 

Good winter/holiday season to everyone who is not a monadahole.

Shitakefunshrooms,

Cowboy


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[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/10/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Time: 2012-12-09, 07:54:53
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Avoiding the use of the word God


Roger,
The monads are collectively god
That's is likely what Newton would believe
and most likely what Liebnitz really believed in
but was afraid to express.
Richard

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Richard Ruquist
>
> Newton believed in numbers but was still a christian.
>
> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
> 12/9/2012
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
>
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> Time: 2012-12-08, 08:48:59
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Avoiding the use of the word God
>
> Roger,
>
> Comp or even just Peano arithmetic suggests that the monads do not
> need a god outside of themselves.
> Richard
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Richard Ruquist
>>
>> Referring as I did sometimes to the supreme monad as God was
>> not technically correct, only a shorthand version. L's God is
>> who/what perceives and does through the supreme monad.
>> L's God is itself therefore not a monad, it's simply cosmic intelligence
>> or the One.
>>
>>
>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
>> 12/8/2012
>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>>
>>
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>> Time: 2012-12-08, 07:49:27
>> Subject: Re: Re: Avoiding the use of the word God
>>
>> Roger,
>>
>> In order to get a cosmic consciousness, an arithmetic of monads is
>> required. No one monad has consciousness as L has said. Therefore
>> isince God is one monad, it cannot be conscious and IMO therefore
>> cannot be god.
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Richard Ruquist
>>>
>>>
>>> You say, "God is the totality of all Monads and its creation is
>>> expressed on and in all of them. "
>>>
>>> God is the agent that carries out this expression,
>>> for only He knows what they all are.
>>>
>>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
>>> 12/8/2012
>>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>>>
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: Avoiding the use of the word God
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 12/6/2012 7:52 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> I slipped up, sorry. I usually avoid using the word God since that
>>>> upsets
>>>> many people.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, you can think of L's universe as a complete system with one
>>>> control,
>>>> the Supreme Monad (the One). It only needs one master controller, but
>>>> that
>>>> is necessary and more than that wouldn't work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Roger,
>>>>
>>>> The way I see the idea, there is no need for a single central control or
>>>> special monad. God is the totality of all Monads and its creation is
>>>> expressed on and in all of them. I see the language that L used about a
>>>> "one
>>>> God" was merely a way to remain in the good graces of the Church.
>>>
>>> Hear, Hear
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
>>>> 12/6/2012
>>>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>> Stephen
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