On 12/13/2012 11:46 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2012/12/13 meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On 12/13/2012 10:46 AM, John Clark wrote:On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Copenhagen said the choice is made by the experimenter and apparently Deutsch agrees with this because he thinks it's significant that his AI is conscious No Deutsch does not agree with this, I know because I've talked to him about it. In the many worlds interpretation neither choice nor consciousness nor mind in general have anything to do with the way the laws of physics work, however in order to devise a experiment that attempts to prove that Many Worlds makes better predictions than other interpretations where mind is important it is obviously necessary to incorporate mind into the experiment.Which agrees with my point that the experiment is only designed to test the Wigner theory that consciousness collapses the wave-function. Rejecting Wigner's interpretation (which he dropped later anyway) is not the same as proving MWI. Brent Isn't that prove wrong any collapse explanations ?
No it just proves wrong theories that say the conscious knowledge of the quantum computer, which is not erased, collapses the wf. That's why I say I'd like to see the experimental setup or at least the theoretical Hamiltonian. Suppose the interference fringes are observed - then we say OK erasing the which-way, but keeping the some-way, information is possible. Suppose the interference fringes aren't observed - then we say it isn't really possible (with the given experiment anyway) to erase the which-way information and keep the some-way information. Although the AI doesn't know which-way, the information is 'out there' just like in the buckyball Young's slit experiment.
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