I don't know what you're replying - it doesn't seem to have any connection to what I
wrote. Where did I would devote myself to eveluating what's true. Where did I say
anything about solipism. You asked how to program a robot to evaluate what's true in
interaction with other self-interested robots, and I gave an outline of it.
Are you now changing the problem, saying that I cannot program my robot to learn from its
interactions - that it must have a fixed evaluation critereon from the very beginning?
On 12/18/2012 2:10 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
But you can not devote yourself to evaluate truth A solipsist robot is a dead robot. an
exceptic robot is a almost dead robot. The other robots will not collaborate with a
robot that spend so much time and is unreliable for collaboration. other robots will
break the robot apart while it is evaluating the certainty of the first truth..
Your truths must be operational from the first moment in order to create plans for
coordination with other robots. You as programmer know that your robot will be involved
in circles, some of them very intimate
What does 'intimate' mean in this context?
others not so intimate. The game to play is survival, not accuracy.
You wrote, "If true it is hold in the list of true statements. If not, it is rejected.
The true statements will be used for the elaboration of social behaviours intended to
obtain pieces and to maintain the group of collaborators, the fabrication, ownership, and
maybe robbery of new pieces for the future." I assumed that you meant "If it is assessed
as true it is held..." Surely you didn't mean the the true was known with certainty - by
magic? Then your implication is that these true statements with be used to enhance
survival. But of course knowing true things is not the same as saying true things to
enhance your survival. Knowing what's true can help you lie effectively too. But it is
still advantageous in general to know what is true in order to predict the outcome of
contemplated actions.
Brent
2012/12/18 meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
On 12/18/2012 8:05 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Suppose that you are in charge of the software of a social robot. I
mean a robot
that live with other robots that collaborate to solve problems. These
robots
must repair themselves, with pieces that are located in the field.
these pieces
are scarce or they are not for free, and some groups of robots want
your own
pieces for them, so finally the robots arrange themselves in groups of
collaborators that try to fabricate pieces and protect them from the
attacks of
other groups. Things become more complicated, since, for better defense
and/or
fabrication and/or attack the groups become bigger, and some subgroups
are
formed iinside, in order to have privileged access to valuable pieces in
detriment of the other members of the big group.
At a point in the programing, you have to deal with comunication of
each robot
with the fellow robots. As a result of this comunication, you must
evaluate if
what is communicated to you is true of false. If true it is hold in the
list of
true statements. If not, it is rejected. The true statements will be
used for
the elaboration of social behaviours intended to obtain pieces and to
maintain
the group of collaborators, the fabrication, ownership, and maybe
robbery of new
pieces for the future. Or else, the group will die, the robot will die
and its
lists of truths too.
Since you know that finally the social robots will end in arrangements
of
collaborators in the way I described above, T How would you design the
evaluator
iof true and false statements.?
An interesting and complex problem. You wouldn't just evaluate some as
'true' and
discard the others. You'd keep all (or at least many) of them and assign
them
degrees of credence according to criterea like: Who said it? Has he been
truthful
before? Who would belief in the statement help or hurt? How does it comport
with
other statements? Can I check any part of it independently?...
Brent
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