Roger, I am amused the a believer like you does not factor in your thinking the existence of the afterlife. Richard
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Bruno Marchal > > There is a gray area called "quality of life". > > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 12/20/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Bruno Marchal > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-12-20, 05:12:10 > Subject: Re: The pro-life paradox > > > On 19 Dec 2012, at 17:01, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:49, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> Hi Stephen P. King >> >> I define good as that which enhances life and evil >> as that which diminishes it. >> >> >> Is pro-life activism enhancing life or diminishing life? >> >> Some pro-life doctor are against euthanasia, even passive euthanasia, with >> the result that they transform dying patient into machines. But most of them >> are naive believer, and as such, they disbelieve comp, and so their pro-life >> activity begins to be contradictory. >> >> The question is: does an artificial, or even virtual body, enhance life >> or suppress life? >> >> Bruno >> >> > > That's tricky. > > The aristotelean pro-life doctor does not believe she/he is turning the > dying patient into a machine. That Doctor thinks they are saving the > universe from one of its fundamental properties: death, entropy. I don't > know if most of them are "naive believer" in the sense that most doctors in > this domain are well aware that it is a loosing battle, and I guess "outing" > yourself as "pro-euthanasia" carries some heavy implications in your day to > day practice, interaction, and judgement from peers, directors, and > employers. I guess, most would be "cooler" with this if they could. So > "naive believer", yeah maybe some, but more I'd guess live in fear of > getting their voice heard. > > To tackle the question straight-on: > > 1) depends on manufacturer, market, price and warranty conditions, and the > local universe. You did remember to submit the appropriate forms before > rental of "Bruno", didn't you? I say this, because it seems like sometimes > you forget with this kind of question :) > > > I am not sure I get the point. Mine was only that the pro-life doctor will > transform people into machine (as they do already somehow), and that can > contradict the general anti-mechanist prejudice of many pro-life activists. > > > > > 2) Heidegger was just joking. Nobody was "thrown"; he just got a bit of > nausea after signing all the soul-body binding contracts and wants > modification of warranty terms. I don't know whether his appeal was heard by > the courts, any of you? > > > Lol. But still don't see the point. keep in mind that logicians are simple > mind :) > > > > 3) But after flying for platonic infinities through every possible universe > as a disembodied soul eye with infinite memory at any speed you wished, you > would go sign up for another round to be entangled with some strange > universe physically again and push the "format disk" button once again and > agree to all constraints, just for novelty's sake and say "sh*t, it's boring > here... but I am no chicken, I choose a local universe where aristoteleans > are winning, just to make it more interesting, because the platonic > localities are too much already like here...also, I'll choose one where > matter is really convincing and makes us unable to define life properly, so > that I can pose this question in a forum someday, and confuse the others a > bit, hehe." > > > OK. But for once, my question was terrestrial. Of course such question makes > less global sense in Platonia, but can still make sense locally, even there. > > Bruno > > > > > :) > > Cowboy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
