On Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:22:38 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > Many are called, but few are chosen. >
You mean many are called in error by an omnipotent-yet-incompetent God, or that they are intentionally called and abandoned by a all-loving-yet-consistently-cruel-and-indifferent God? > > [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net <javascript:>] > 1/19/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Craig Weinberg > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-01-18, 17:31:03 > Subject: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy > > > The reasoning we can use to justify God's ways to man are identical to > those we could use to justify the idea that Satan is actually the creator > of the universe, and just uses the fiction of God to further torment and > tyrannize man. If I were the Devil, I would dictate the bible exactly as it > is, full of contradiction and irrelevant genealogy, sprinkled some profound > wisdom and lurid violence. > > But alas, the Bible is just a book pieced together from scraps and > re-written over centuries. Shakespeare was a better writer. Billions of > people will live their whole lives without ever reading it, and their lives > will be no worse for the loss. The bible is creepy if you ask me. It is no > blessing. > > Craig > > On Friday, January 18, 2013 4:19:47 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > A God-limited God - My Theodicy > > A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man. > This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and > reason. Comments appreciated. > > Most of the so-called "contradictions" in the Bible, > such as a loving God lashing out at sinners, > practically committing genocide, or a loving God > allowing tsunamis to happen, or a loving God allowing > evil and suffering in this world, can be attributed > to a misunderstanding of God's true nature. > > For reason, as well as the Bible, indicate that God has > willingly limited his possible actions in this world > to accord with his own pre-existing righteousness as well as > the pre-existing truths of necessary reason. > > Thus that Christ had to die on the cross, instead of having the > sins of mankind simply forgiven by God, can be justified > by God's righteousness. That is, even God must obey > his own justice. > > Similarly, God must obey the physics of his creation. > Physical disasters happen. God can't make 2+2 =5. > God lets the rain fall on the just as well as the unjust. > > And God has given man free will, so that men can > do evil as well as good. > > Although God has unlimited power in the kingdom of Heaven, > in this imperfect, contingent world he has had to limit his > powers of action. > > > - Roger Clough > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/2oOpYw773iUJ. > To post to this group, send email to > everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/sTqccu4P5KoJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
