Brent, you phrased beautifully your reply. Could be shorter: " - hogwash - ". JM
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 1/18/2013 1:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > >> A God-limited God - My Theodicy >> >> A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man. >> This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and >> reason. Comments appreciated. >> >> Most of the so-called "contradictions" in the Bible, >> such as a loving God lashing out at sinners, >> practically committing genocide, or a loving God >> allowing tsunamis to happen, or a loving God allowing >> evil and suffering in this world, can be attributed >> to a misunderstanding of God's true nature. >> >> For reason, as well as the Bible, indicate that God has >> willingly limited his possible actions in this world >> to accord with his own pre-existing righteousness as well as >> the pre-existing truths of necessary reason. >> >> Thus that Christ had to die on the cross, instead of having the >> sins of mankind simply forgiven by God, can be justified >> by God's righteousness. That is, even God must obey >> his own justice. >> > > That's just silly. He is still described as punishing sins, and in > particular the sin of not believing in him and not worshiping him. > > >> Similarly, God must obey the physics of his creation. >> Physical disasters happen. God can't make 2+2 =5. >> God lets the rain fall on the just as well as the unjust. >> > > That's the god of deism, not Christianity. > > >> And God has given man free will, so that men can >> do evil as well as good. >> > > Men didn't create small pox, cholera, or childhood leukemia. > > Brent > Christianity : The belief that a walking dead Jewish deity who was his own > father although he always existed, commits suicide by cop, although he > didn't really die, in order to give himself permission not to send you to > an eternal place of torture that he created for you, but instead to make > you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood, and > telepathically promise him you accept him as your master, so he can cleanse > you of an evil force that is present in mankind because a rib-woman and a > mud-man were convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. > > >> Although God has unlimited power in the kingdom of Heaven, >> in this imperfect, contingent world he has had to limit his >> powers of action. >> >> >> - Roger Clough >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<everything-list@googlegroups.com> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscribe@ > **googlegroups.com <everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.