Brent,
you phrased beautifully your reply. Could be shorter:
   "  -  hogwash  -  ".
JM

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 1/18/2013 1:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>
>> A God-limited God - My Theodicy
>>
>> A theodicy is a justification of God's ways to man.
>> This is my theodicy, based on the Bible and
>> reason. Comments appreciated.
>>
>> Most of the so-called "contradictions" in the Bible,
>> such as a loving God lashing out at sinners,
>> practically committing genocide, or a loving God
>> allowing tsunamis to happen, or a loving God allowing
>> evil and suffering in this world, can be attributed
>> to a misunderstanding of God's true nature.
>>
>> For reason, as well as the Bible, indicate that God has
>> willingly limited his possible actions in this world
>> to accord with his own pre-existing righteousness as well as
>> the pre-existing truths of necessary reason.
>>
>> Thus that Christ had to die on the cross, instead of having the
>> sins of mankind simply forgiven by God, can be justified
>> by God's righteousness. That is, even God must obey
>> his own justice.
>>
>
> That's just silly. He is still described as punishing sins, and in
> particular the sin of not believing in him and not worshiping him.
>
>
>> Similarly, God must obey the physics of his creation.
>> Physical disasters happen. God can't make 2+2 =5.
>> God lets the rain fall on the just as well as the unjust.
>>
>
> That's the god of deism, not Christianity.
>
>
>> And God has given man free will, so that men can
>> do evil as well as good.
>>
>
> Men didn't create small pox, cholera, or childhood leukemia.
>
> Brent
> Christianity : The belief that a walking dead Jewish deity who was his own
> father although he always existed, commits suicide by cop, although he
> didn't really die, in order to give himself permission not to send you to
> an eternal place of torture that he created for you, but instead to make
> you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood, and
> telepathically promise him you accept him as your master, so he can cleanse
> you of an evil force that is present in mankind because a rib-woman and a
> mud-man were convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
>
>
>> Although God has unlimited power in the kingdom of Heaven,
>> in this imperfect, contingent world he has had to limit his
>> powers of action.
>>
>>
>> - Roger Clough
>>
>>
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