On Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:32:58 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > OK, you can see that in two current junk science cults: > > (a) materialism > > (b) climate change >
What I can see is that your responses seem to be generated by this logic tree: Do I Understand It? Yes = Leibniz No = God Do I Like It? Yes = Rational No = Blame Liberals (aka Nazi-Communist Jews who advocate a Welfare-Police state) Craig > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* Craig Weinberg <javascript:> > *Receiver:* everything-list <javascript:> > *Time:* 2013-01-23, 09:15:40 > *Subject:* Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 > STEPS. > > > > On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:30:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> What is a fundamentalist pathology ? And how does it apply to science ? >> > > A pathology here refers to a degenerative condition, like a disease, > decay, or a failing strategy - a state of deepening dysfunction and > corruption which produces increasingly undesirable effects. > > Fundamentalist here refers to a reactionary stance characterized by > rigidity and overbearing defensiveness toward alternative approaches. > Intellectual totalitarianism. > > Craig > >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> *From:* Bruno Marchal >> *Receiver:* everything-list >> *Time:* 2013-01-22, 11:00:27 >> *Subject:* Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS. >> >> >> On 21 Jan 2013, at 22:20, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 1/21/2013 9:11 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> It is only recently, as the limitations of the narrow Western approach >> are being revealed on a global scale, that science has fallen into a >> fundamentalist pathology which makes an enemy of teleology. >> >> >> Yes, it is only the recently, since the Enlightenment, that science has >> displaced theology as the main source of knowledge about the world. >> >> >> This is non sense. Science is not domain. It points only to an attitude. >> Science cannot displace theology, like it cannot displace genetics. It can >> give evidence that some theological theories are wrong headed, or that some >> theories in genetics are not supported by facts, but science cannot >> eliminate any field of inquiry, or it becomes automatically a >> pseudo-religion itself (as it is the case for some scientists). >> >> >> >> >> Coincidentally is only recently that the sin theory of disease was >> replaced by the germ theory...that the geocentric model of the solar system >> was replaced by the heliocentric...that insanity has been due to bad brain >> chemistry instead of possession by demons...that democracy has replaced the >> divine right of kings...that lightning rods have protected us from the >> wrath of God...that the suffering of women in childbirth has been >> alleviated... >> >> >> OK. This shows that religion provides answer, and then the scientific >> attitude can lead to corrections, making those answers into abandoned >> theories. This really illustrates my point. Now some go farer and make >> "primary matter" the new God. that's OK in a treatise of metaphysics, when >> physicalism is explicitly assumed or discussed, but some scientists, >> notably when vindictive strong atheists I met, just mock the questions and >> imposes the physicalist answer like if that, an only that, was science. >> This is just deeply not scientific. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/RxABwuXe31MJ. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/btCFEZ0P0pMJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
