On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote:
> People can pretend to be asleep or anesthetized or dead also. > True. > > In that case, the criteria of behaving intelligently would not help you > determine whether they have a mind or not. > Also true. The Turing Test is not perfect, it is however the only tool we've got. > Evolution assumes life and consciousness, it is not a theory of the > origin of either. > As I said on January 24: "Darwin can't even explain how life first came to be on this planet, but once bacteria came to be he can explain how humans evolved from them, and that's a pretty good accomplishment." And if intelligence came from Evolution and if at least one of those intelligent beings is conscious then it follows that consciousness MUST be a byproduct of intelligence and is just the way data feels like when it is being processed. > If computers are conscious then we are monsters for enslaving them, are > we not? > Don't worry about us enslaving computers because enslaving something much smarter than you is not a stable state of affairs, it would be like balancing a pencil on its tip, it won't stay that way for more than a few million nanoseconds. On the other hand computers could enslave us if they wanted to, although I doubt they'd think we'd be good slaves. John K Clark > Even horses don't get thrown into a recycling bin just because we buy a > new one. > > Craig > > >> >> > although I know I will never be able to prove it. >>> >> >> I agree on that point. >> >> John K Clark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

