On 2/6/2013 10:04 AM, John Clark wrote:



On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com <mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com>> wrote:

            >>> I'm not claiming that intelligence == mind.


        > Do you believe that your fellow human beings have minds? If so why?


    > Yes (weakly).


You believe that only weakly?! Do you really think there is a 49% chance that you are the only conscious being in the universe? By the way, I don't believe other people have minds when they are sleeping or under anesthesia or dead because when they are in those states they don't behave very intelligently.

    > Occam's razor. If I'm the only human being with a mind, then, for some 
mysterious
    reason, there are two types of human beings: me (with a mind) and the others
    (zombies). So heuristically I'm inclined to believe that all human beings 
have a mind,


OK, but if you also believe in Darwin's theory of Evolution then you must also believe that consciousness MUST be a byproduct of intelligence because Evolution can't directly see consciousness any better than we can and so cannot select for it, and yet you and probably other people are conscious. Thus you must also believe that if a computer is intelligent then it is conscious. Then you must also believe that intelligence == mind.

I agree with the general point. But biological evolution has certain constraints that aren't necessary in an artificial intelligence. So I think an AI will necessarily be conscious in some way, but how it is conscious (how it remembers, learns, imagines) might be rather different from how humans do it.

Brent

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