On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:00:17 PM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > I'm not claiming that intelligence == mind. >>>> >>> >>> Do you believe that your fellow human beings have minds? If so why? >>> >> >> Yes (weakly). Occam's razor. If I'm the only human being with a mind, >> then, for some mysterious reason, there are two types of human beings: me >> (with a mind) and the others (zombies). So heuristically I'm inclined to >> believe that all human beings have a mind, although I know I will never be >> able to prove it. >> > > I question whether it is possible to ask whether your fellow human beings > have minds without resorting to sophistry. I say that not because I am > incapable of questioning naive reasoning, but because it does not > accurately represent the reality of the situation. Just as our 'belief' in > our own mind is an a prori ontological condition which cannot be questioned > without incurring a paradox (whatever disbelieves in its own mind is by > definition a mind), the belief that our fellow human beings have minds does > not necessarily require a logical analysis to arrive at. We know that we > have access to information beyond what we can consciously understand, and > part of that may very well include a capacity to sense, on some level, the > authenticity of another mind, barring any prejudices which might interfere. > Ok, that is a testable hypotesis (once we have sufficiently advanced AI and robotics). > > Craig > > >> >> >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-li...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.**com. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
