On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> If you say that free will is compatible with determinism then you are
>> an compatibilist, otherwise you are an incompatibilist. Why do you try
>> to make the discussion difficult by refusing to agree on terminology?
> Because the terminology is ideologically loaded and makes the truth
> impossible to address, obviously. It's like you are demanding that I agree
> that electricity is either the work of God or the Devil.

We need to agree on terminology if we're going to have a discussion at
all. Have aliens visited the Earth? We need to agree that an "alien"
is a being born on another planet. It doesn't mean we agree on the
facts, but we need to at least speak the same language!

>> It seems, again, that you believe it is a priori impossible for
>> consciousness and determinism to co-exist. If we can't get beyond this
>> then there is not much point in further debate.
> Determinism is what consciousness looks like from the crippled third person
> perspective. They coexist in the sense that the old woman and the young
> woman coexist in the famous ambiguous drawing.

So, do you believe that it possible that an entity which is
deterministic from a third person perspective could be conscious, or
do you believe that an entity which is deterministic from a third
person perspective could not possibly be conscious?

Stathis Papaioannou

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