On 3/21/2013 7:30 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 21.03.2013 12:20 Stephen P. King said the following:
>>
>> On 3/21/2013 3:22 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>> On 20.03.2013 22:14 Stephen P. King said the following:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/20/2013 4:01 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>>>> On 20.03.2013 20:18 meekerdb said the following:
>>>>>> On 3/20/2013 2:22 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19.03.2013 22:25 Alberto G. Corona said the following:
>>>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably his positions about atoms were the same, an atom is
>>>>> just a concept created by the mind - hence it does not make
>>>>> sense to search for it in reality. Here is the irony.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evgenii
>>>>>
>>>> Dear Evgenii,
>>>>
>>>> I agree! What is almost worse is that immaterialism makes the
>>>> very idea that a 'reality' has any existence outside one the mind
>>>> of the individual. This makes escape from solipsism impossible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, you have the way out when you consider the Other - look what
>>> Sartre says about consciousness. "The Other" intrinsically belongs
>>> to the Universe in the same way as "I". Solipsism happens when you
>>> forget about The Other. I believe that Sartre is very good in this
>>> respect.
>>>
>>> Evgenii
>>>
>>
>> How do we forget what we cannot even know that we know?
>
> As far as I know, that's the main Sartre's point. You just start with
> that you know that you know. Without the Other there is no I.
>
> Evgenii
>
Sartre was the philosopher that was the hardest for me to study, but
I did manage to finish Being and Nothingness. Consciousness might be,
itself, the act of distinctioning between I and Other, but how to do so
without Being other than either of these?
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Onward!
Stephen
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