On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 7:27:02 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 07:38:36AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > 
> > If you are sleepwalking, are 'you' conscious or not conscious? 
> >   
> Dunno. As far as I know, I've never done it. Have you asked a 
> sleepwalker? I've never known any. 

No, but it's not a big mystery. I've seen people talk in their sleep, so I 
get the idea. If someone is conscious, you can ask them 'what are you 
doing?' and expect an answer, but if they are talking in their sleep or 
walking in their sleep then they won't hear you and won't answer. They are 
dreaming and asleep but their body is performing functions we normally 
associate with being awake. I would say that dreaming is a form of 
consciousness, but it is not exactly a personal consciousness - it is a mix 
of sub-personal, personal, and super-personal awareness but not of 
public/impersonal awareness. In sleep walking or sleep talking however, 
there is some motor participation with the public world, but is disjoined 
from personal awareness.

These kinds of distinctions should be a hint that human psychology is 
complex and ambiguous, so that a binary distinction of conscious or 
unconscious is not appropriates. Human psychology is a set of qualities and 
modalities of sense. Outside of human experience however, I would agree 
with you. Sensory experience as a physical principle can only be a felt 
presence, it can't be partially felt.


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