On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 5/12/2013 9:00 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
> If your mom ate something different while pregnant with you, such that you
> developed with different atoms, does that mean someone else would have been
> born in your place and you wouldn't be conscious?  Or if one unexpressed
> gene was different, would it be someone other than you looking through those
> eyes?  What if one gene were different, but it was of little consequence, or
> what if multiple genes were different, etc.  How much of the circumstances
> would have to change for you to never have been born?  If you admit that
> different matter or different genes would not make it such that you were
> never born, then are you not all your siblings as well?
>
>
> That doesn't follow.  The most common theory of why you are you is that the
> structure of your brain and body encode computations that are peculiar to
> you.  You are determined by the structure that effects these computations.
> This is independent of the particular atoms and molecules and even a lot of
> the structure.  As Bruno puts it, it depends on the level of substitution.
> Just because there is a level, e.g. atoms, that makes no difference, it
> doesn't follow that there is not a difference at another level.

It's hard to have this discussion with a single word for "you". 1p-you
and 3p-you might make it easier. The 3p-you is characterised by a
number of physical processes that we more or less understand. For
example, if I fall and lose a bit of skin from my knee that won't
change much, but there is possible a relatively small set of neurons
that can be changed to alter my personality. But the idea that the
1p-you is determined at a substitution level seems silly to me (unless
we can find some fundamental process by which the 1p arises).
Otherwise, I find it easier to believe that there is only one 1p
conscious entity that gets instantiated on everyone (and possible
everything), at all times, in all possible universes.

Telmo.

> Brent
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