This list appears to support MWI in which every wave function and its associated particle becomes physical but in a differing parallel world or universe. So from a 3p perspective, everything is predetermined and from what I can tell from a 1p perspective there is only the illusion of consciousness and free will. I contend that in such a case, there is no need for a morality or a soul.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > From an ancient Simpsons, from Homer to Bart: what is mind? Never matter. > What is matter? Never mind. I will hold with Chalmers, on this one. That it > is the hard problem. Perhaps like the pure materialists love to say, the > mind is merely an epiphenomenon, of the human brain. Ok, but I ask, does > the epiphenomenon, have a soul? ;-) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> > To: everything-list > <everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 3:32 pm > Subject: Re: The Leibniz-Taoist solution: Matter is mind, mind is matter > > This reminds me of Isaac Asimov's 1, 2, 3, infinity > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Roger Clough <[email protected]> > wrote: > The Leibniz-Taoist solution: **Matter is mind, mind is matter > > According to the Dao de jing, the solution to the mind-brain problem is > that it is not a problem. > > Matter is mind, mind is matter is one way of saying it. > > Leibniz said the same, that monads are expressions of material bodies. > > The physical is the nonphysical, the nonphysical is the physical is > another way. > According to modern physics, matter or spacetime emerges from > the nonphysical. > > This was expressed long, long ago in the Dao de jing, > > According to Legge's translations of chapter 42, the Tao Te Ching: > > http://www.yellowbridge.com/**onlinelit/daodejing42.php<http://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/daodejing42.php> > > "The Dao produced One; One **produced Two; Two produced **Three; > Three produced All things. > > Reason begets unity; unity **begets duality; duality ** > begets trinity; and tr > inity begets the ten thousand **things. > > Tao produces unity; unity **produces duality; duality ** > produces trinity; tri > nity produces all things." > > > > > Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) **5/16/2013 > See my Leibniz site at > http://team.academia.edu/**RogerClough<http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

