On 16 May 2013, at 23:08, [email protected] wrote:
From an ancient Simpsons, from Homer to Bart: what is mind? Never
matter. What is matter? Never mind. I will hold with Chalmers, on
this one.
Chalmers does not seem aware of the hard problem of matter. He coined
the expression "hard problem of consciousness", (which is just the
mind-body problem), but stick on matter, which is not astonishing as
he doesn't grasp the FPI.
That it is the hard problem. Perhaps like the pure materialists love
to say, the mind is merely an epiphenomenon, of the human brain. Ok,
but I ask, does the epiphenomenon, have a soul? ;-)
It would not be an epiphenomenon, unless you think the soul as no
power of its own. Materialist cannot keep both matter and mind. Their
prejudices in favor of some primitive matter makes the most coherent
tempted to eliminate the soul, i.e. the person. In my opinion this is
not plausible, and even dangerous or 'inhuman'.
Bruno
PS I replied to a private message you sent to me, but I got a mailing
delivery message according to which your address does not exist. I let
you know.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: The Leibniz-Taoist solution: Matter is mind, mind is
matter
This reminds me of Isaac Asimov's 1, 2, 3, infinity
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Roger Clough
<[email protected]> wrote:
The Leibniz-Taoist solution: Matter is mind, mind is matter
According to the Dao de jing, the solution to the mind-brain problem
is that it is not a problem.
Matter is mind, mind is matter is one way of saying it.
Leibniz said the same, that monads are expressions of material bodies.
The physical is the nonphysical, the nonphysical is the physical is
another way.
According to modern physics, matter or spacetime emerges from
the nonphysical.
This was expressed long, long ago in the Dao de jing,
According to Legge's translations of chapter 42, the Tao Te Ching:
http://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/daodejing42.php
"The Dao produced One; One produced Two; Two produced Three;
Three produced All things.
Reason begets unity; unity begets duality; duality begets trinity;
and tr
inity begets the ten thousand things.
Tao produces unity; unity produces duality; duality produces
trinity; tri
nity produces all things."
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 5/16/2013
See my Leibniz site at
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
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