Hi Brent,

So what would a computer generated simulation of a Pink Elephant in a
simulated world be? Would it exist?


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 6/8/2013 12:03 PM, John Mikes wrote:
>
> You are mixing conventional physicalist-materialist apples with imaginary
> oranges. Anything 'could be'.
>
>
> That's my point.  Anything 'could be' if the only constraint is logical
> consistency (not self contradictory).  But in the sense of 'be' that
> requires a universe and observers there appear to be other, nomological
> constraints.  So there could be an animal that looks superficially like and
> elephant and lives on a planet who's atmosphere is as dense as water and is
> pink.  But it couldn't also have the same DNA and metabolic system as and
> elephant.  So it would only 'be a flying pink elephant' because we use the
> words to denote a certain similarity in appearance.
>
> Brent
>
>
>  Question: would such "anything" be topic for this physicalist-based
> conventional EVERYTHING List?
> Q-2: are OUR colors defined for different physical circumstances as well?
> BTW - IMO  flying is not restricted to a conventionally called 'gaseous'
> medium, so 'swimming' can be considered an alternate for flying. - PINK
> Whales? <G>
> Rem: of course 'they' all exist - if not otherwise: in our mind.
> JM
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 6/8/2013 5:23 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> They exist if there is a consistent description of them. Even within
>>> conventional physics there is room for that, as discussed recently on this
>>> list. In the MWI or in eternal inflation models, everything that is not
>>> strictly forbidden by the conservation laws will happen.
>>>
>>> Flying pink elephants can e.g. exist on planets with an extemely dense
>>> atmosphere, there was a NGC documentary a few years ago about this topic,
>>> it was suggested that you could have flying whales on such planets.
>>>
>>
>> Could you identify them as elephants and whales by their DNA?  Could the
>> elephants be pink?
>>
>>
>> Brent
>>
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