On 6/8/2013 4:38 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,
So what would a computer generated simulation of a Pink Elephant in a simulated world
be? Would it exist?
It would exist in the computer simulation. But would it be a "Pink Elephant" - that seems
like a question of semantics. We look at the screen and say, "That's a pink elephant."
but we don't mean that literally. Simulated people in the simulation may say, "That's a
pink elephant." and mean it literally.
Brent
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 6/8/2013 12:03 PM, John Mikes wrote:
You are mixing conventional physicalist-materialist apples with imaginary
oranges.
Anything 'could be'.
That's my point. Anything 'could be' if the only constraint is logical
consistency
(not self contradictory). But in the sense of 'be' that requires a
universe and
observers there appear to be other, nomological constraints. So there
could be an
animal that looks superficially like and elephant and lives on a planet
who's
atmosphere is as dense as water and is pink. But it couldn't also have the
same DNA
and metabolic system as and elephant. So it would only 'be a flying pink
elephant'
because we use the words to denote a certain similarity in appearance.
Brent
Question: would such "anything" be topic for this physicalist-based
conventional
EVERYTHING List?
Q-2: are OUR colors defined for different physical circumstances as well?
BTW - IMO
flying is not restricted to a conventionally called 'gaseous' medium, so
'swimming' can be considered an alternate for flying. - PINK Whales? <G>
Rem: of course 'they' all exist - if not otherwise: in our mind.
JM
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 6/8/2013 5:23 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl <mailto:smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:
They exist if there is a consistent description of them. Even within
conventional physics there is room for that, as discussed recently
on this
list. In the MWI or in eternal inflation models, everything that is
not
strictly forbidden by the conservation laws will happen.
Flying pink elephants can e.g. exist on planets with an extemely
dense
atmosphere, there was a NGC documentary a few years ago about this
topic,
it was suggested that you could have flying whales on such planets.
Could you identify them as elephants and whales by their DNA? Could the
elephants be pink?
Brent
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