Sorry,, it is not deeds, but sins. And expiation of sin against the comunity or against oneself (which also endanger the comunity) must be paid with sacrifices. In any society, for any human being. Because that is the human nature and that is the nature of game theory. If not the alternative is suicide, the ultimate sacrifice
The sacrifice of Christ calm the desire for sacrifice and substitute it by less onerous sacrifices: prayer for example. That is the central point with effective pshychologial healing for every human being. You can laugh at or dismiss it. But it is evident again, in the light of game theory and evolution. See for example https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/everything-list/OxWk4otaaec/6v6Ou0XOq1QJ Brent: I´m not interested in the mithopoesis that you present, that is evidently, gnostic and therefore it is deeply antichristian. Since you are a gnostic (despite that you don´t know it), you think, in the deep, that humans can escape from the limitations of reality. evolution and game theory among them, once they are free from he oppression of shadow evil entities like capitalism, God, the Curch, The Pentagon, The Global Warming deniers, and other conspirations . Since we start from very different points of view I´m sorry I can not stablish a conversation with you. I don´t want to waste my time. (not to mention to waste my time reading the products of your sterile and biased hate against the christianity, western history, and, upto to a point, everything) 2013/7/12 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> > On 7/12/2013 7:03 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > The sacrifice of Christ paid our deeds -once and for all- for being worth > and appreciated by other human beings. The belief on that calm our innate > desire to demand the sacrifice of the others for us and the desire to > sacrifice ourseves. > > > I was with you, Alberto, up that point. The sacrifice of Christ, which > was demanded by his Father, was for expiation of sins. Not to show he was > willing to sacrifice for the tribe. Not to show he was a team player. It > was displaced revenge. It showed God was justified in visiting great > punishment on disbelievers; punishment so great that killing His own son > exemplified His wrath. This was part and parcel of the threat of eternal > torture and slaying His enemies. "See how ruthless I can be. See how > seriously I take your impiety. I kill my own son in expiation." > > And his followers learned this lesson and applied it to the Cathars, the > Protestants, the Muslims, and Hitler visited it on the Jews. Not that it's > unique to Christianity or even to religion - as you note, any tribe can > adopt a dogma and defend it with bloodshed. > > Brent > “There is another form of temptation, even more fraught with danger. > This is the disease of curiosity…. It is this which draws us to try and > discover the secrets of nature, those secrets which are beyond our > understanding, which can avail us nothing, and which man should not wish > to learn.” > -- St. Augustine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.