On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I was correcting your mischaracterization of two democratically elected > and popular leaders who were overthrown in bloody CIA backed coups and > replaced by fascist dictators > Yes Chris, the CIA staged those coups, but some countries violently change their brutal 2 bit tin horn dictators with a new brutal 2 bit tin horn dictator more often than I change my underwear, so its a little hard for me to get all weepy about it; particularly when placed in the perspective (as I did in my post) of the tens of millions of there own people that the communists have murdered. As for IRAN I think the CIA probably did a good thing in 1953, yes it placed the country in the hands of a brutal 2 bit dictator, but from 1953 to 1979 it probably prevented the country from falling into the hands of brutal 2 bit dictators who were driven by their imbecilic religion to push their country back into the ninth century. Of course a lot of this is supposition, we'll never know for sure what the world would be like today if the CIA had not been involved in those coups; but I do know that even if what they did wasn't right it was little more than being mischievous compared with the horrors committed by Lenin or Stalin or Mao Zedong or Kim Ll-sung or Mr. Ass's favorite, Hitler. > **** > > > You had mischaracterized these two popularly elected heads of state as > 2-bit leaders. I find that to be a strange choice of words to describe a > democratically elected head of state. > To my mind if something is democratic that does not automatically mean it occupies the moral high ground. Hitler gained power legally, and a recent opinion poll showed that 64% of the Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan think the death penalty should be invoked for anyone who leaves Islam, and in Afghanistan 78% think so. And in Iraq and Afghanistan 60% think that the killing of female family members by men should be legal if the women "sully" the family honor. Would you really be upset if somebody prevented these democratic practices from being implemented? I wouldn't be. > > John -- Not interested in placing any more wear and tear on your brain. > Thank you, but I'm concerned that you ignored my question. > > Either we discuss or we don’t. > Before we can talk more about moral issues I need you to answer the question I asked you in my last post, because discussing matters of morality with somebody who makes excuses for a creature who says "supporting the Nazis was the right thing for the Arabs back then" and "I believe that 9/11 was a good thing" would be like debating with a baboon over the correct way to solve a problem in Calculus. And I have better ways to allocate my time than that. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.