For a pure economic study of the crises of the middle ages, I recommend

The rise of the western world

http://www.amazon.com/The-Rise-Western-World-Economic/dp/0521290996

It is plenty of insights about why happened what.

It is a bit hard for non economists but it worth the pain.




2013/8/29 <spudboy...@aol.com>

> So very true. During that time we had the Black Plague (1st of 4) and even
> before this we had the start of the Little Ice Age, which caused
> starvation, and weakend the populations of Asia, Africa, and Europe (hunger
> produces children with weaker immune systems) and again a high death rate.
> Perhaps 25%-33% of the continent. It was a time of calamities-human and
> otherwise.
>
>  And yet the greatest mass murderer of all history remains Genghis Khan…
> lest we forget. The Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan murdered so many people
> that there was a corresponding measurable drop in humanities global carbon
> footprint, because so many people were wiped out that huge areas reverted
> back to forest because there was no one to farm the land. Human brutality
> to other humans (and our planet) has a long and bloody history, and the
> champion genocidalist (if I may coin the word) of all time committed his
> crimes more than 800 years ago, and without modern technology.
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:34 pm
> Subject: RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood
>
>   And yet the greatest mass murderer of all history remains Genghis Khan…
> lest we forget. The Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan murdered so many people
> that there was a corresponding measurable drop in humanities global carbon
> footprint, because so many people were wiped out that huge areas reverted
> back to forest because there was no one to farm the land. Human brutality
> to other humans (and our planet) has a long and bloody history, and the
> champion genocidalist (if I may coin the word) of all time committed his
> crimes more than 800 years ago, and without modern technology.
> -Chris
>
> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com<everything-list@googlegroups.com?>]
> *On Behalf Of *spudboy...@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:29 AM
> *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood
>
>  As someone who voted for Al Gore in 2000 (he liked hydrogen cars, what
> can I say?) I don't believe it was corruption that won Bush jr. his
> election, but the idiocies of the electoral process. Hanging chads or
> accusations of Deibold voting machines not withstanding. Democracy, is not
> a thing most Muslims seem to like, or like the communists and the Nazis,
> appear to see it as a stepping stone to power and what they wanted in its
> ultimate form. What most governments today are not Republics-although the
> voting methods still are, we are corporatist governments. Corporatism is
> not just corporations, but something else. Please view Wikipedia's
> "corporatism" article its splendid because its informative.
>
>  What is lacking from this forum/thread is the awareness of the perfidies
> of socialism, as well as capitalism-a one way street. If we want to lambast
> capitalists for mass murder (and you guys do!) the look no further than
> Belgium's rubber plantations in central Africa. (sorry Bruno!) where 8
> million Africans were worked to death, because of incentives offered by the
> Belgian government at the time-an incredible history there. Finally, the
> Nazis couldn't have gained power without the German communists cooperation
> with the SA, where as they began to stage street battles SA v. the Red
> Scarves in order to undermine Weimar, as being ineffective to make the
> streets safe.
>
>  For an intense look at the Nazi-Soviet ear, please consider reading Tim
> Snyder's The Bloodlands-Between Stalin and Hitler. Siding with totalitarian
> Al Qaeda, is also foolish, as their goals are Sharia Law worldwide.
> Secondly even is Saibal's   view is accurate (attack the military only) it
> wound up have the US push the Taleban from power, and the wars in the
> middle east gather so many fanatical jihadists there that it was a magnet
> for their destruction (unintentionally) because the US and Nato forces
> turned many of them into non-combative corpses-reducing the jihadist
> troops. Under Obama, with his policies-their fortunes have reversed. I am
> guessing they are planning some nasty surprises for the US, which will no
> doubt make Smitra all jolly.
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: chris peck <chris_peck...@hotmail.com>
> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2013 8:22 pm
> Subject: RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood
>   corruption in politics (US elections 2000) is good in hind sight
> because it led to democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq.
>
> or one more up Saibal's street:
>
> In hind sight the end of the Raj was a bad thing because it led to the
> partition of India and Pakistan, wars over Kashmir and nuclear friction.
>
> There must be loads of counter-intuitive and flame worthy comments that
> can be rendered using Saibal's hokey logic.
>
> We should give some monkeys typewriters and throw a banana to the ape that
> generates the best one.
>
> all the best.
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:01:27 -0700
> From: meeke...@verizon.net
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood
>  On 8/25/2013 9:36 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
>
> If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened,
> it ended up exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they were.
>
>
> That's sort of like saying it's good that the Nazi's killed all those
> people in death camps because that exposed what a dangerous philosophy of
> government Nazism is.
>
> Brent
>
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