For a pure economic study of the crises of the middle ages, I recommend The rise of the western world
http://www.amazon.com/The-Rise-Western-World-Economic/dp/0521290996 It is plenty of insights about why happened what. It is a bit hard for non economists but it worth the pain. 2013/8/29 <[email protected]> > So very true. During that time we had the Black Plague (1st of 4) and even > before this we had the start of the Little Ice Age, which caused > starvation, and weakend the populations of Asia, Africa, and Europe (hunger > produces children with weaker immune systems) and again a high death rate. > Perhaps 25%-33% of the continent. It was a time of calamities-human and > otherwise. > > And yet the greatest mass murderer of all history remains Genghis Khan… > lest we forget. The Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan murdered so many people > that there was a corresponding measurable drop in humanities global carbon > footprint, because so many people were wiped out that huge areas reverted > back to forest because there was no one to farm the land. Human brutality > to other humans (and our planet) has a long and bloody history, and the > champion genocidalist (if I may coin the word) of all time committed his > crimes more than 800 years ago, and without modern technology. > -Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:34 pm > Subject: RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood > > And yet the greatest mass murderer of all history remains Genghis Khan… > lest we forget. The Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan murdered so many people > that there was a corresponding measurable drop in humanities global carbon > footprint, because so many people were wiped out that huge areas reverted > back to forest because there was no one to farm the land. Human brutality > to other humans (and our planet) has a long and bloody history, and the > champion genocidalist (if I may coin the word) of all time committed his > crimes more than 800 years ago, and without modern technology. > -Chris > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]?>] > *On Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:29 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood > > As someone who voted for Al Gore in 2000 (he liked hydrogen cars, what > can I say?) I don't believe it was corruption that won Bush jr. his > election, but the idiocies of the electoral process. Hanging chads or > accusations of Deibold voting machines not withstanding. Democracy, is not > a thing most Muslims seem to like, or like the communists and the Nazis, > appear to see it as a stepping stone to power and what they wanted in its > ultimate form. What most governments today are not Republics-although the > voting methods still are, we are corporatist governments. Corporatism is > not just corporations, but something else. Please view Wikipedia's > "corporatism" article its splendid because its informative. > > What is lacking from this forum/thread is the awareness of the perfidies > of socialism, as well as capitalism-a one way street. If we want to lambast > capitalists for mass murder (and you guys do!) the look no further than > Belgium's rubber plantations in central Africa. (sorry Bruno!) where 8 > million Africans were worked to death, because of incentives offered by the > Belgian government at the time-an incredible history there. Finally, the > Nazis couldn't have gained power without the German communists cooperation > with the SA, where as they began to stage street battles SA v. the Red > Scarves in order to undermine Weimar, as being ineffective to make the > streets safe. > > For an intense look at the Nazi-Soviet ear, please consider reading Tim > Snyder's The Bloodlands-Between Stalin and Hitler. Siding with totalitarian > Al Qaeda, is also foolish, as their goals are Sharia Law worldwide. > Secondly even is Saibal's view is accurate (attack the military only) it > wound up have the US push the Taleban from power, and the wars in the > middle east gather so many fanatical jihadists there that it was a magnet > for their destruction (unintentionally) because the US and Nato forces > turned many of them into non-combative corpses-reducing the jihadist > troops. Under Obama, with his policies-their fortunes have reversed. I am > guessing they are planning some nasty surprises for the US, which will no > doubt make Smitra all jolly. > -----Original Message----- > From: chris peck <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2013 8:22 pm > Subject: RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood > corruption in politics (US elections 2000) is good in hind sight > because it led to democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq. > > or one more up Saibal's street: > > In hind sight the end of the Raj was a bad thing because it led to the > partition of India and Pakistan, wars over Kashmir and nuclear friction. > > There must be loads of counter-intuitive and flame worthy comments that > can be rendered using Saibal's hokey logic. > > We should give some monkeys typewriters and throw a banana to the ape that > generates the best one. > > all the best. > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:01:27 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood > On 8/25/2013 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened, > it ended up exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they were. > > > That's sort of like saying it's good that the Nazi's killed all those > people in death camps because that exposed what a dangerous philosophy of > government Nazism is. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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