Hi John, Roulette wheels are technically deterministic. I know with your "cuckoo clocks or roulette wheels" aphorism you're trying to make things as simple as possible, but that is potentially confusing.
Terren On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Science, or at least theoretical physics, is all about explaining >> physical laws in terms of other more general laws. Either this process goes >> on forever like a infinitely nested Russian doll, or it does not go on >> forever and come to a end and some things are just fundamental and it is >> pointless when you reach that level to ask "what is it made of?". >> >> >> > Indeed. But some stop at elementary particles, or strings, >> > > One step at a time! At this point it would be pretty silly to worry about > what strings are made of when we have almost no evidence that they even > exist. Right now it can explain almost nothing we see so there is no such > thing as string theory, there is only the striving for a string theory; > when and if theorists succeed in building something useful out of it then > we can talk about what if anything strings are made of. > > > With comp (the idea that we are machine), >> > > By "machine" I assume you mean a deterministic process. Well you're a > logician so you know we either are or we are not, and if we are not then we > are by definition random. Like it or not its a question of cuckoo clocks or > roulette wheels. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
