On 09 Sep 2013, at 20:42, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I do not like very much Feyerabend, and disgaree with its overal
philosophy of science, I do agree with him on Galileo.
OK so let me get this straight, you agree that "the church at the
time of Galileo was much more faithful to reason than Galileo
himself",
I did not say that. Nor did Feyerabend. We were just saying that
concerning the precise point that galielo should have accepted that it
was theory, not the truth per se. In this orecise case, perhaps by
chance, the Church was asking to Galileo to be ... Popperian.
Of course the Church itself was not Popperian nor rational, as I
mentioned.
you think somebody wanting to burn somebody else alive for saying
the earth goes around the sun is much more faithful to reason than
the scientist who said it. Bruno, at this point I really don't want
to hear any more crap about "comp", right now I just want to know if
that is what you're really trying to say.
Being provocative is all well and good, but not to the point of
stupidity.
> Galileo was blinded
Blinded? BLINDED!? Were talking about Galileo and the church but
it's Galileo who was blinded!?
Yes, he was blinded by its Aristotelian faith that what we see is
automatically the truth. Today we know that science proves nothing
about reality, but it can refute theories, and it can provides
evidences for theories, but not automatically the truth.
In that precise case, by a sort of chance, the Church was correct
against Galileo, from a logical perspective. Of course, Galileo was
very plausibly less wrong than the Church on the content of the
theory, but that is not what Feyerabend was discussing.
Bruno
This is yet another thing that gives philosophy a bad name, I may
have heard stupider remarks in my life but I can't think of one
right now.
John K Clark
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