2013/10/7 John Clark <[email protected]> > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>The H-guy turns into the M-guy, but they are not identical just as >>> you are not identical with the Bruno Marchal of yesterday. >>> >> >> > This is true, but it's also something Bruno has said many times. >> > > Then Bruno is not always wrong. > > > If comp is correct (to the extent that the mind is a computation, at >> least) then this is happening all the time. >> > > And if comp (whatever that means) is not correct then it is STILL > happening all the time. > > > we exist as steps in a computation, and hence, at least in a sense, >> cease to exist and come back into existence constantly. >> > > Yes. > > > we are at any given moment digital states can be duplicated, at least in >> principle, and could also be duplicated inside a computer >> > > Yes. > > > The question is, do you agree that if consciousness is computation, a >> duplicator of this sort is at least a theoretical possibility? >> > > Obviously! > > > Arguing about which man is which or who thinks what seems a bit >> pointless. >> > > Pointless unless you think it is a virtue to quite literally know what you > are talking about. Bruno keeps throwing around words like "I" and "you" and > "he" and it is very clear that Bruno doesn't know what those words mean in > a world with duplicating chambers. Bruno says "he" has been duplicated, so > now there are TWO, but then Bruno demands to know the ONE thing and only > the ONE thing that "he" will do; and this is nonsense. >
You are spitting non-sense... that's not what is asked. He will do *both* from a 3rd POV.... but each Bruno can only live *ONE* stream of consciousness which is *either* M or W, it's not both. So before duplication, the probability (or measure of you prefer) is 50/50 for the destinations from the POV if the guy standing in H. *IT'S THE SAME THING IN MWI SETTING AND I DON'T HEAR YOU CRYING NONSENSE ABOUT IT ON EVERY POST*. Be consistant and reject MWI as an obvious BS crap. Quentin > > John k Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
