2013/10/7 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>The H-guy turns into the M-guy, but they are not identical just as >>> you are not identical with the Bruno Marchal of yesterday. >>> >> >> > This is true, but it's also something Bruno has said many times. >> > > Then Bruno is not always wrong. > > > If comp is correct (to the extent that the mind is a computation, at >> least) then this is happening all the time. >> > > And if comp (whatever that means) is not correct then it is STILL > happening all the time. > > > we exist as steps in a computation, and hence, at least in a sense, >> cease to exist and come back into existence constantly. >> > > Yes. > > > we are at any given moment digital states can be duplicated, at least in >> principle, and could also be duplicated inside a computer >> > > Yes. > > > The question is, do you agree that if consciousness is computation, a >> duplicator of this sort is at least a theoretical possibility? >> > > Obviously! > > > Arguing about which man is which or who thinks what seems a bit >> pointless. >> > > Pointless unless you think it is a virtue to quite literally know what you > are talking about. Bruno keeps throwing around words like "I" and "you" and > "he" and it is very clear that Bruno doesn't know what those words mean in > a world with duplicating chambers. Bruno says "he" has been duplicated, so > now there are TWO, but then Bruno demands to know the ONE thing and only > the ONE thing that "he" will do; and this is nonsense. >
You are spitting non-sense... that's not what is asked. He will do *both* from a 3rd POV.... but each Bruno can only live *ONE* stream of consciousness which is *either* M or W, it's not both. So before duplication, the probability (or measure of you prefer) is 50/50 for the destinations from the POV if the guy standing in H. *IT'S THE SAME THING IN MWI SETTING AND I DON'T HEAR YOU CRYING NONSENSE ABOUT IT ON EVERY POST*. Be consistant and reject MWI as an obvious BS crap. Quentin > > John k Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.