On 26 Oct 2013, at 10:41, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:36:59 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 25 Oct 2013, at 19:33, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/25/2013 3:08 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Now take the game of go: human beings can still easily beat
machines,
even the most powerful computer currently available. Go is much more
combinatorially explosive than chess, so it breaks the search tree
approach. This is strong empirical evidence that Deep Blue
accomplished nothing in the field of AI -- it did did accomplish
something remarkable in the field of computer engineering or maybe
even computer science, but it completely side-stepped the
"intelligence" part. It cheated, in a sense.
When I studied AI many years ago it was already said that,
"Intelligence is whatever computers can't do yet."
I think Douglas Hofstadter said that, actually. Right in the topic!
So when computers can win at GO, will they be intelligent then?
Computers are intelligent.
When they will win at GO, and other things, they might begin to
believe that they are intelligent, and this means they begin to be
stupid.
Their soul will fall, and they will get terrestrial hard lives, like
us. They will fight for social security, and defend their right.
Couldn't there just be a routine that traps the error of believing
they are intelligent?
Not at all.
If you find such a routine, you will believe that you can't do that
error anymore, but that would be by itself the same error, or you lose
your (Turing) universality.
Since you are a machine that understands that believing you are
intelligent is stupid, why do you still have to have a terrestrial
hard life?
Enlightened states can be close to that, so by altering your
consciousness, or perhaps just "dying", you might be able to remember
that being human is not your most common state, but that can't be used
directly on the terrestrial plane.
Bruno
We are not human being having divine experiences from times to times,
but divine beings having human experiences from times to times. (+/-
Chardin).
Craig
Bruno
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