On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote
>> The diary is useless because the diary was written by "you" and contains >> predictions about the further adventures of "you", but now there are 2 (or >> more) people with the title "you" ... >> > > > ..., but now there are 2 (or more) people IN THE THIRD PERSON POV, > And there are also 2 people IN THE FIRST PERSON POV and one of them does not have a stronger claim to having a subjective existence than the other. > but the question concern the FIRST PERSON POV. > You have been duplicated so there are TWO FIRST PERSON POV and they both remember writing the diary, so which one is Bruno Marchal talking about? > And in Helsinki, you knew this in advance. You know that you will survive > Yes, assuming that the pronoun "you" means what a fellow by the name of Bruno Marchal says it means , namely " "you" concerns the guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki". > and experience being in only one place. > No, assuming that the pronoun "you" means what a fellow by the name of Bruno Marchal says it means , namely " "you" concerns the guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki". And now ladies and gentleman let the backpedaling begin! If we backpedal hard enough soon we will leave the kingdom of the true but trivial and enter the land of gibberish. >> and no way to determine which one the diary was referring to. >> > > > False. It is very easy. In both city the diary is the one [you] have > with where [you] have found to be, > ^^^ ^^^ There we go again with that damn weasel pronoun! But it won't get Bruno Marchal off the hook this time, Bruno Marchal stated what it means, " "you" concerns the guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki", therefore the fellow named "you" has found himself to be in BOTH Washington and Moscow. > and it is the diary containing the prediction written in Helsinki. > And it was written by "you" and "you" now resides in Washington AND Moscow. > You continue to ignore that the question concerns the 1-you, as seen by > [the 1-you] , and not any 3-view of the > situation. > ^^^^^^^^^ > In the thought experiment there is no "the 1-you" there is only "a 1-you" because YOU HAS BEEN DUPLICATED! That's what it means to be duplicated! John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.