2013/11/1 John Clark <[email protected]> > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote > > >> The diary is useless because the diary was written by "you" and >>> contains predictions about the further adventures of "you", but now there >>> are 2 (or more) people with the title "you" ... >>> >> >> > ..., but now there are 2 (or more) people IN THE THIRD PERSON POV, >> > > And there are also 2 people IN THE FIRST PERSON POV and one of them does > not have a stronger claim to having a subjective existence than the other. > > > but the question concern the FIRST PERSON POV. >> > > You have been duplicated so there are TWO FIRST PERSON POV and they both > remember writing the diary, so which one is > Bruno Marchal talking about? >
Anyone of the two... each will have a different diary, and by repeating the experience they will notice the frequency goes to 0.5, like when you do a coin toss... oh but wait... JC does not want to look at that, oh wait... JC said that probability is 0 or 1.... yes JC knows all. > > > And in Helsinki, you knew this in advance. You know that you will >> survive >> > > Yes, assuming that the pronoun "you" means what a fellow by the name of > Bruno Marchal says it means , namely " "you" concerns the guy(s) who will > remember having been in Helsinki". > > > and experience being in only one place. >> > > No, assuming that the pronoun "you" means what a fellow by the name of > Bruno Marchal says it means , namely " "you" concerns the guy(s) who will > remember having been in Helsinki". And now ladies and gentleman let the > backpedaling begin! If we backpedal hard enough soon we will leave the > kingdom of the true but trivial and enter the land of gibberish. > > >> and no way to determine which one the diary was referring to. >>> >> >> > False. It is very easy. In both city the diary is the one [you] have >> with where [you] have found to be, >> > > ^^^ ^^^ > There we go again with that damn weasel pronoun! But it won't get Bruno > Marchal off the hook this time, Bruno Marchal stated what it means, " "you" > concerns the guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki", therefore > the fellow named "you" has found himself to be in BOTH Washington and > Moscow. > > > and it is the diary containing the prediction written in Helsinki. >> > > And it was written by "you" and "you" now resides in Washington AND Moscow. > > > You continue to ignore that the question concerns the 1-you, as seen by >> [the 1-you] , and not any 3-view of the >> situation. >> ^^^^^^^^^ >> > > In the thought experiment there is no "the 1-you" there is only "a 1-you" > because YOU HAS BEEN DUPLICATED! That's what it means to be duplicated! > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
