On 11 November 2013 22:47, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/11/11 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
>>  On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
>> On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>  On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>>>  Sure, but the thing is that *you have to*, and asking such question at
>>> that stage is very likely... you can't be 10⁵ years old before having been
>>> 1 year old... it's simply nonsense.
>>>  So you're falling back on the all-purpose 'everything' answer; whatever
>>> you observe is one of everything and that why everything is consistent with
>>> it - like why I'm not a Chinaman?
>>>  There isn't any falling back here that I can see. It seems quite
>> reasonable to say you have to pass through your birthdays in ascending
>> order. I can't see why that is problematic / contraversial?
>> Sure, but if I live infinitely long I will have almost all my experiences
>> older than 75.  So when I note that I'm not that old and that seems
>> improbable,
> The thing is as I said is that you have to be *first* 75 before being
> older... you're talking like every moment of your life was chosen
> randomly... they aren't (at least for me) before today, it was yesterday,
> not a random moment, and tomorrow will be tomorrow not a random moment in
> my life. Using your argument I should never have been a child.

I must admit I'm baffled that the normally sensible Mr Meeker finds it odd
that one has to live through one's life consecutively, with or without
quantum immortality. As stated, you can't use a Bayesian selection argument
when the points you're chosen are constrained to occur sequentially,
whether you're going to live to be 100, 1000, a million of a googol years,
you still have to start at 1 and work your way up.

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