On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:18 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 11/12/2013 4:59 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 11/12/2013 2:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 04:44, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> >>> Experience may be like that; everything has 'experience', it's just >>>> not human experience and when you stop having human experience you're dead. >>>> >>>> >>> Why? If by dying we remember being something different from human, I >>> would still feel like I am surviving. (Amazingly, salvia can lead to such >>> an experience/hallucination). >>> >> >> Yes, if you remember. But I don't remember anything earlier than about >> age 4 and neither do other people I know. Which then implies that we are >> not past eternal and so it is possible to not be future eternal. > > > You may be jumping to conclusions. All that implies is that you don't > currently have access to infinite memories. Having infinite memories, and > having access to infinite memories, are quite different from having an > eternal past. > > > Of course I don't even have access to memories of last Nov 12. It's not > the absence of memories of 1000yrs ago, it's absence of *all* memory before > 1944. > Sure, but there may be other explanations for that: 1. Tunneling through a diminished state of conscious, as someone falling asleep or dying into Brent Meeker the fetus, or Brent Meeker waking up this morning. 2. Engaging in an ancestor simulation as a member of an advanced technological race (future humans or aliens) to experience life as a human. 3. A God-like mind who has decided to temporarily forget what it is like to be God. > > Is it your theory that there is a first "Brent" experience, which was not > the continuation of any prior experience, an experiencless predecessor. > All experience may be cyclical in the very long run, going through every state of consciousness eventually. I think this may be implied if there is always some initial conscious state from which all conscious states emerge (and perhaps all eventually return). > I could buy that, since I've been unconscious a few times. But then > that seems to allow there are experiences with no "continuation" in the > sense of continuity. They are just connected by memories or other > similarities. > There is a continuation from being anesthetized to waking up from anesthesia. Would you say the same true for an amnesiac being anesthetized? Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.