For humans, this is what is real:

What quantum mechanics tells us is that reality is a relation between 
fundamental relativism and derived absolutes, as well as derived relativism 
and fundamental absolutes. In short, reality cannot itself be absolutely 
real, but neither can local appearances be absolutely unreal. The universe 
is an unbroken continuum of sensory perspective - not a multisense reality 
but a mulitsense real-ism. Real is an experienced quality at the 
psychological level. In the pre-psychological universe, there is no realism 
because there is no unrealism to compare it with - there is simply 

If we try to break the babies into math or into bubbles of proto-material, 
we have completely lost what Einstein had just begun to find: Context is 
everything. Real belongs to the world of dreaming minds who can go beyond 
narrow sanity. Real does not belong to intangible networks of silent 
probability. Machines are not real, but we pretend they are because they 
are constructed in imitation of our body's interactions with other bodies. 
Computationalism is a dream in which that which has been exported as the 
"other", is re-imported, but without being lived first hand. It makes the 
whole of experience into 'knowledge' and 'beliefs', which are the effects 
of public involvement and measurement rather than the private involvements 
of sensing and caring which have nothing at all to do with measure. 


On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:51:20 PM UTC-5, Samiya wrote:
> Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made 
> of things that cannot be regarded asreal. If quantum mechanics hasn't 
> profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.” 
> What's your take on this? 

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