For humans, this is what is real: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=82c_1384436180
What quantum mechanics tells us is that reality is a relation between fundamental relativism and derived absolutes, as well as derived relativism and fundamental absolutes. In short, reality cannot itself be absolutely real, but neither can local appearances be absolutely unreal. The universe is an unbroken continuum of sensory perspective - not a multisense reality but a mulitsense real-ism. Real is an experienced quality at the psychological level. In the pre-psychological universe, there is no realism because there is no unrealism to compare it with - there is simply experience. If we try to break the babies into math or into bubbles of proto-material, we have completely lost what Einstein had just begun to find: Context is everything. Real belongs to the world of dreaming minds who can go beyond narrow sanity. Real does not belong to intangible networks of silent probability. Machines are not real, but we pretend they are because they are constructed in imitation of our body's interactions with other bodies. Computationalism is a dream in which that which has been exported as the "other", is re-imported, but without being lived first hand. It makes the whole of experience into 'knowledge' and 'beliefs', which are the effects of public involvement and measurement rather than the private involvements of sensing and caring which have nothing at all to do with measure. Craig On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:51:20 PM UTC-5, Samiya wrote: > > Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made > of things that cannot be regarded asreal. If quantum mechanics hasn't > profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.” > What's your take on this? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

