On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:50 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 21 November 2013 12:29, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, >> >> >> >> Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? >> >> >> > Weird comment. The King of England was only, in their view, an >> > inappropriate >> > subject to pay taxes to because they were no longer his subjects, at >> > least >> > in a de facto sense. They weren't against taxes per se, and set up a >> > system >> > in which people were expected to pay taxes. (And if wizards and dragons >> > existed, people would indeed pay them taxes, or as we'd call it, >> > protection >> > money!) >> > >> > No matter how good your case, a reasoned argument is better than an >> > invalid >> > comparison. >> >> Hi Liz, >> >> I'm sorry but I don't understand your point. I am aware that the >> founding fathers were in favour of taxes. As I said to Bruno, I admire >> the constitution but I think that even more freedom can be achieved. I >> just meant that paying taxes to kings on the other side of the world >> is ridiculous, and that the king or queen themselves are ridiculous >> entities in the modern world. > > > My point is that you used a bad comparison. There is no reasonable > comparison between the King of England at the time and wizards and drgaons,
It was a joke... > and you are obscuring your point by using an inappropriate metaphor. > > Paying taxes to someone on the far side of the world seems ridiculous > because that person isn't providing any of the services that they are, at > least in theory, providing for their citizens back home. That's a fair > point, but it doesn't make them mythical or imaginary, it just means that > they are no longer in a position to treat colonists as subjects. > > Similarly, the King or Queen of England may be a ridiculous entity now, but > they certainly weren't at the time, so (again) it doesn't make sense to > suggest that. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
