Brent: *W h a t* consciousness? would you please describe your take (observing the caveat of Liz)? Whatever I could deduce from different peoples' (authors') mumblings (the contents?) boiled down in my 'generealization' to *"RESPONSE TO RELATIONS" *- no animal (human?) connotation, thinking, or feeling. They all fell out. With no indication of *H O W ? * *JM*
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12/10/2013 7:42 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 11 December 2013 10:24, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 12/10/2013 11:54 AM, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:33 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > One needs a rigorous definition of what consciousness is, to start >>> with, >>> >> >> Examples are usually preferable to definitions. >> >> > and then a theory that explains all its observed features, and makes >>> testable predictions. >>> >> >> But that's the beauty of consciousness theories, we can detect >> consciousness only in ourselves so there are no observed features that a >> consciousness theory must explain, >> >> >> Actually there are some observed features. A sharp blow to the head can >> create a gap in ones consciousness. Imbibing various substances that can >> cross the blood/brain barrier have somewhat predictable effects. Localized >> electrical stimulation of the brain produces repeatable effects, both in >> consciousness and somatic. >> >> If you're assuming there is more to consciousness than the sum of our > thoughts, experiences, memories, etc - then this *may* be a description > of features of the contents of consciousness, rather than of the thing > itself. > > > ?? Are you speculating that there are parts of consciousness we're not > conscious of? > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
