The present title is better: *H U M A N consciousness. * I buy THAT as "being conscious". Of what? first of myself. Then: the world around ME. Then the development of HUMAN thinking over the past millennia, including good old D. Hume, who - IMO - was a wise person, but I feel since his time humanity might have absorbed SOME info in addition to what he had at his time. I appreciate Hume's wisdom, but would not like to go back and hold it as a measure for my thinking. He did not text from a jet-flight about a TV show, or ais DNA aberrations. Etc.
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > Brent: *W h a t* consciousness? would you please describe your take > (observing the caveat of Liz)? > Whatever I could deduce from different peoples' (authors') mumblings (the > contents?) boiled down in my 'generealization' to *"RESPONSE TO > RELATIONS" *- no animal (human?) connotation, thinking, or feeling. > They all fell out. With no indication of *H O W ? * > *JM* > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 12/10/2013 7:42 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 11 December 2013 10:24, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 12/10/2013 11:54 AM, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:33 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > One needs a rigorous definition of what consciousness is, to start >>>> with, >>>> >>> >>> Examples are usually preferable to definitions. >>> >>> > and then a theory that explains all its observed features, and makes >>>> testable predictions. >>>> >>> >>> But that's the beauty of consciousness theories, we can detect >>> consciousness only in ourselves so there are no observed features that a >>> consciousness theory must explain, >>> >>> >>> Actually there are some observed features. A sharp blow to the head >>> can create a gap in ones consciousness. Imbibing various substances that >>> can cross the blood/brain barrier have somewhat predictable effects. >>> Localized electrical stimulation of the brain produces repeatable effects, >>> both in consciousness and somatic. >>> >>> If you're assuming there is more to consciousness than the sum of our >> thoughts, experiences, memories, etc - then this *may* be a description >> of features of the contents of consciousness, rather than of the thing >> itself. >> >> >> ?? Are you speculating that there are parts of consciousness we're not >> conscious of? >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
