On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:33 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

 > One needs a rigorous definition of what consciousness is, to start with,
>

Examples are usually preferable to definitions.

> and then a theory that explains all its observed features, and makes
> testable predictions.
>

But that's the beauty of consciousness theories, we can detect
consciousness only in ourselves so there are no observed features that a
consciousness theory must explain, and that's why it takes no brains at all
to dream one up. Intelligence theories are a entirely different matter,
they have to actually explain something and thus are hard as hell and a
unpopular subject on the internet.

> Otherwise all one has is a jumble of words.
>

Yep, a jumble of words (especially personal pronouns) pretty much sums up
consciousness theories.

  John K Clark

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