On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 12:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:00 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > On 12/12/2013 1:36 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 12 December 2013 17:00, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> In forking MWI worlds, your ID is constantly changing as it depends on >> various quantum states. >> Your detailed nature is never duplicated. Every fork is a change from >> your previous state. >> If comp supports MWI, why should your ID ever stay the same >> since you are constantly forking with or without the doctor. >> Rich >> >> Yes, I wondered about that. However you look at it, digital > consciousness involves constant state changes, at the substitution level > and below. You end up with something like David Deutsch's snapshots or Fred > Hoyle's pigeon holes, or someone, not sure who's "capsule" model of > identity. It's all very Heraclitean! > > > Of course in a (gasp!) materialist model, there are no "snapshots". The > computations that produce consciousness are distributed in space and time > and one "thought" overlaps another. > > > That isn't obvious to me. Are you saying the brain manufactures 10^43 > thoughts per second? Would we know if the brain only made ~30 thoughts per > second? > > > No, I'm saying, roughly, the latter. And those thoughts have extension in > both space and time (in the brain) as physically realized, so they can > overlap. The overlapping times them together and provides an ordering, > corresponding to the experience of consciousness and time. > > Okay. I agree with this. It is particularly evident in the case of a single-threaded CPU emulating a neural network, which is maximally spread out in time (rather than space), but implements the same computation and same consciousness. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.