On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/12/2013 12:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:00 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12/12/2013 1:36 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 12 December 2013 17:00, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> In forking MWI worlds, your ID is constantly changing as it depends on >> various quantum states. >> Your detailed nature is never duplicated. Every fork is a change from >> your previous state. >> If comp supports MWI, why should your ID ever stay the same >> since you are constantly forking with or without the doctor. >> Rich >> >> Yes, I wondered about that. However you look at it, digital > consciousness involves constant state changes, at the substitution level > and below. You end up with something like David Deutsch's snapshots or Fred > Hoyle's pigeon holes, or someone, not sure who's "capsule" model of > identity. It's all very Heraclitean! > > > Of course in a (gasp!) materialist model, there are no "snapshots". The > computations that produce consciousness are distributed in space and time > and one "thought" overlaps another. > > > That isn't obvious to me. Are you saying the brain manufactures 10^43 > thoughts per second? Would we know if the brain only made ~30 thoughts per > second? > > > No, I'm saying, roughly, the latter. And those thoughts have extension in > both space and time (in the brain) as physically realized, so they can > overlap. The overlapping times them together and provides an ordering, > corresponding to the experience of consciousness and time. > > Okay. I agree with this. It is particularly evident in the case of a single-threaded CPU emulating a neural network, which is maximally spread out in time (rather than space), but implements the same computation and same consciousness. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

