On 27 Dec 2013, at 23:50, LizR wrote:

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On 28 December 2013 05:51, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:It has always seemed to me that UDA cannot solve the mind-bodyproblem strictly because it cannot comprehend the existence of"other minds".Actually, I have wondered about this. How do all these "threads ofcomputation" which are assumed to exist in arithmetic actuallymanage to communicate with each other?

`Some universal system (in arithmetic, thus), can emulate interacting`

`universal systems. Indeed the UD simulates even all possible`

`interactions between universal systems. The only problem which remains`

`is in the search of why such universal systems (allowing interactions)`

`win the "measure battle", but for this we have to extract the measure`

`first, and then the interaction from them. If we add interaction,`

`without extracting it from comp, we are doing traditional physics, and`

`we lost the qualia and all the non communicable stuff, and we put`

`again the mind under the rug.`

`Stephen critics seems to miss the point that UDA *formulates* the`

`constraints we have to follow in solving the mind body problem. he`

`could as well say that UDA miss the gravitation law, Maxwell's`

`equation, the H bosons, and actually even space and time. We are only`

`at the beginning here. All what comp already say, is that the`

`possible answer are closer to Plato's theology than Aristotle`

`theology, which means that comp forces us to backtrack on 1500 years`

`on "theology", to get the comp-correct physics.`

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