On 29 Dec 2013, at 20:30, meekerdb wrote:

On 12/29/2013 5:59 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Liz,

Reality doesn't seem to have any difficulty computing the results of random choices.


If reality computes, then reality is a computer/universal-number. If reality is physical reality, then this is the digital physics thesis, which is self-contradictory (due to the UDA). Also, computing and obtaining a random result is contradictory by itself, as computing is determinated. It can make sense with a quantum computer, or with self-duplication, (or both like in Everett), so you might clarify here. Are you (Edgar, Brent) assuming a quantum computer? With comp this is a sort of treachery, as far as we are concerned with the fundamental reality.

Bruno


That's how practically all computations occur. If we assume, or define, reality as computational then reality is computing random results by definition. It's obviously something that reality math does quite well.

It's not Church-Turing, but it might be the way the world works.

Brent

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