On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:53 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 December 2013 15:37, Stephen Paul King > <stephe...@provensecure.com>wrote: > >> >> Why is this necessary? Sure, physics has come a long way since Democritus >> and his Atoms in a void. But we have reached a point where that way of >> thinking fails. Look at Superstrings, no empirical evidence of anything >> measurable there... Time for a new vision? >> > > Well, perhaps. No one is saying you have to have something fundamental, > but if you don't you need a good explanation of why not! > The reason is: It is not necessary! That simple. We do not need to assume monotonicity of compositions, we just need some form of associativity and unity for closure under compositions. > >>> * (By the way, I'd feel happier replying if you'd miss out all the >>> unnecessary quote marks. It looks like you're trying to hedge against being >>> pinned down into actually taking a viewpoint when everything under >>> discussion has to be "quoted" for no obvious reason...) >>> >> >> No, I don't mind being pinned down. I just often have to use words in a >> metaphorical and not literal way. >> > > Right, but when you say "fundamental level", if you don't actually mean it > literally then we're talking about different things. It isn't a metaphor, > as far as I know it has a rigorous definition - the thing(s) that have to > be assumed in a theory. > Ontology. Grundlagen. "what it is all made out of", etc. Not a metaphor! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/1NWmK1IeadI/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.