On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 30 Dec 2013, at 19:44, meekerdb wrote: > > On 12/30/2013 2:07 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 30 December 2013 21:02, Stephen Paul King > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Bruno, >> >> Why do you not consider an isomorphism between the Category of >> computer/universal-numbers >> and physical realities? That way we can avoid a lot of problems! >> I think that it is because of your insistence of the Platonic view >> that the material/physical realm is somehow lesser in ontological status >> and the assumption that a timeless totality = the appearance of change (and >> its measures) is illusory. I would like to be wrong in this presumption! >> >> The problem is that assuming the material / physical realm as > fundamental gets you no further than assuming that "God did it!" It's a > "shut up and calculate" (or shut up and pray) ontology. > > With materialism you just have a "brute fact" - well, maybe that's it, > maybe there *is *just a brute, unexplained fact. But us ape descended > life forms like to look for explanations even beneath the apparent brute > facts! > > > But "Everything happens" is just as useless as "God did it". > > > 1) "everything happens" is just inconsistent. > Show of hands: Who agrees with this? I do! > 2), with comp, we have a solid notion of everything (the UD*), but it does > not explain anything, it is used on the contrary to show how to reduce the > mind-body problem into a "belief problem" in pure arithmetic. And this > explain the quantum aspect of nature, but not yet the "symplectic" aspect > of nature. > I could agree with this as well, if an explanation of interaction is offered for arithmetic... > > Bruno > > > > > A theory that can explain anything fails to explain at all. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/1NWmK1IeadI/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 [email protected] http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
