On 04 Jan 2014, at 21:20, LizR wrote:
On 5 January 2014 04:36, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
Pierz,
It may not be "physics" by your definition but both the Present
moment and Consciousness are certainly part of reality, in fact they
are basic aspects of reality.
However, a theory does have to be consistent with observation. So
far, every attempt to make your theory consistent with the millions
of observations that support SR fail, except by saying that "P-time"
doesn't have any measurable effects whatsoever.
Which is also true of the invisible pink unicorns that actually
control reality.
Reality subsumes physics, if you want to define physics as just what
is mathematically describable.
Or does reality emerge from physics? Reductionists think so.
Not all of reality is mathematical, but it is all logical since its
computed.
And we know this because....
a. Edgar says so
or perhaps
b. I have a 2000 year old book which says so
?????
Obviously even a silicon software program is a logical structure but
not all of that logic is mathematical operations.
I believe all operations carried out by software can be reduced to a
series of just one logical operation repeated lots of times - I
think it's NAND?
So all computer programmes can be reduced to a series of NAND gates
connected with wires (in principle). The structure of the programme
would therefore be how the NAND gates are connected, and the
operations would all be NANDs. I'm not sure if the wiring can be
represented mathematically - well, actually, yes I am sure, it's
just a directed graph. And I assume NAND is mathematically definable
- it follows this truth table iirc
1 0
------|-----------------
1 | 0 1
0 | 1 1
So it looks to be as though a "silicon software progam" may actually
be a mathematical structure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAND_logic
You need NAND, and a clock time, if only to build the flip flop and
memory. You need also some duplicator (which is implemented by a wire
splitting and is usually taken for granted in classical computation,
but is not quantum computation. But you are right, all this can be
defined, and exist, in arithmetic, including the quantum computations.
The mystery is not the existence of quantum computation, which is a
theorem in arithmetic, but of their local apparent stability, which
must be justified in arithmetic too, and that is the hard thing to
solve. The result obtained are promising, because the indexical
approach of matter already provide a quantum 'quantization" obeying a
quantum logic.
Bruno
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