On 9 January 2014 11:40, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 1/7/2014 10:36 PM, LizR wrote:
>> Max's main lacuna is the nature of consciousness, which he describes as
>> "what data feels like when it's being processed" - hardly a detailed
>> theory. He starts his Mathematical Universe Hypothesis from the opposite
>> pole to Bruno, so to speak. I wonder if it's possible for a particular
>> mathemathical object to drop out of comp - after all, we do appear to live
>> in a universe with a specific set of laws of physics. Are these the only
>> ones that could be generated by comp (or generated by the existence of
>> conscious beings in Platonia) ? Maybe one needs to somehow intersect comp
>> with the MUH to get the full story!
> I think to be conscious you need memory and a sense of time passage
> (although Bruno disputes this when he comes back from a salvia trip).  To
> escape solipism there must be objects your perceive, some of which act like
> you, and on which you can act (c.f. Dr Johnson). That implies that there
> must be a quasi-classical world in order to support consciousness (at least
> human-like consciousness).
> Those all seem like reasonable criteria. I imagine they could be fulfilled
by a variety of physical laws (e.g. it probably wouldn't make a huge
difference to the existence of human beings if light travelled 10% faster
or slower). So presumably comp covers all possible physical laws which
create conscious beings...

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